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Discuss H I S T O R Y  like proper gentlemen. There is an exquisite cheese assortment on the snack table and a wine tasting booth in the back, but they are only for good contributors.

 

Accepted into the Gentlemen's Historical Club:

Historical Discussion

Historical Jokes

Historical Debate

Historical Story Telling

Historical Listing

Historical Events

Historical Leaders

Historical Memes

Historical Banter

Historical Timelines

What Is not accepted in the Gentlemen's Historical Club:

Random Irrelevant Memes

Non historical discussion

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Well I don’t think there is much to learn from history aside from it being interesting and being cultured because we keep repeating ourselves 

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On 24.1.2018 at 8:35 PM, Politik Komissar KobaTimur said:

Nice topic mein bruder.

My point of view about history is that it's in a straight axis, and we're doing History (In the meaning of the science) every additional day we live.

Personally, I don't think EU is good and was very happy about Brexit. I live in Normandy and even with the DDay and overratted things like this (americunts save eu, all that fake propaganda sjit, bc actually USSR save Eu by slaying nazism with many many losses) ; I still see, Germany and Uk, as ennemies of France, even if Merkel and Macron love themselves.

The thing is, it was a constant thing in Europe, to see nations agaisnt nations, and I don't see why EU could change this.

Gentlemen, y'all can answer to my point of view, and I got a question to add in the debate and that I ask to myself for YEARS, and I even think to write my first book on it : Is there any lessons you can take out about whole History ? (aye it's quite philosophical but well, humanities..)

 

Dear Erbfeind. Want a repeat of 1871 or 1940? Just say the word. Never went well for France when they had to face a united Germany.

There is a joke going on at Volkswagen, that it takes a week to change production from cars to tanks. But only because it takes a week to order the paint.

 

Just kidding of course. The reality is (even if we may not like it), that Franco-German relations have never been closer in history, despite old die-hards thinking otherwise. There is even a military unit comprised of soldiers from both countries, called the "Franco-German Brigade" which is part of the "Eurocorps". Police units from both countries also closely collaborate and both the police and the military even do maneuvers together.

Add to that a lot of cultural and economic ties and you'll see that a war between France and Germany is an impossibility in the near future.

Thanks to the Schengen agreement there also has never been more freedom for the inhabitants of our countries as well as the rest of the core EU. You can live wherever you want and don't even need to apply for citizenship anymore. I call that progress. Though I would agree that parts of the EU are undemocratic (like the commission) and should be reformed.

 

Them Brits will get whats coming for them when the Brexit is finally done. According to the studies I've read on the topic it were mostly old fucks who voted for Brexit. So just like in politics in every country, old fucks who yearn for the "good old days" get to destroy the future of their children. They will probably come begging for scraps, when they realize that their access to the common market of the EU was the only thing keeping Britain afloat, ever since they moved their entire industry to China. Major companies from India for example already stated that they will have to renegotiate contracts inside the EU and can no longer use Britain as an intermediary for trade and that's just one example.

 

The old myth that Britain was paying for everything is just that. A myth. Britain gained much more economic benefits from being inside the EU than not and in total it was a net gain for the British economy. They will essentially be relegated to a similar position in Europe as Norway is. That means being affected economically by European legislation, but unable to influence it politically. Brexit negotiations are still ongoing and honestly the only one standing to loose there is Britain. There is no cherry picking for them, they either accept terms that are agreeable to the EU or they face a hard Brexit, which WILL hurt Britain economically.

 

Good riddance I say. That's what you get for promoting nationalistic drivel in political discourses and blaming all the faults (that are essentially their own) on the EU.

It's probably the biggest joke ever, how a once world spanning empire basically dismantled itself through greed and stupidity, while their "historical enemies" grew ever closer.

 

GG

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